Curse

Zerlina Ville · Mar 22, 2010, 01:09 AM // 01:09

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Originally Posted by Skyy High

Welcome to online gaming. Seriously, go play any FPS, on a console or PC, and come back and tell me that it's any different. People are jerks, what else is new.

I've played alot of MMOs the last few years. And sure, some people are jerks, and yes there seem to be more in PvP then in PvE, but I still havent found it this bad before. I mean, its every other fight, maybe more often even.

In Jade Quarry I dont see that kind of behavior as much, its RA thats really bad, which is kinda wierd as a JQ match lasts for 15 mins while a RA match last only 1-3mins.

Before MMOs I played alot of Quake, Unreal Tournament and Counter Strike. But its so long ago I cant remember anymore, and I was a fairly decent player so they werent harassing me anyways. So it might have been bad. But I imagine CS was worse then Quake and UT because CS is more team based and Quake and UT is more action filled, so people didnt have time to chat.

FengShuiDove · Mar 22, 2010, 01:10 AM // 01:10

Welcome to internet anonymity.

Dzjudz · Mar 22, 2010, 01:20 AM // 01:20

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Originally Posted by Zerlina Ville

Well there is no other way to get better now is there? I mean I cant go to the Codex Arena or those places because no one will let a noob join them. I bought the PvP kit, I obviously cant go and practice in PvE, so theres only 1 way to go. So I stick to Jade Quarry and Random Arenas. I dont have the skills, but I do think I have the equipment, I did buy the PvP kit, so I got alot of nice stuff for free, bought some runes and stuff and crafted me some new gear.

Sadly you have to make a choice. Stick with it and ignore all the flack you get from other players while you get better over time, or buy PvE and get the hang of the game there.

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Originally Posted by Zerlina Ville

In Jade Quarry I dont see that kind of behavior as much, its RA thats really bad, which is kinda wierd as a JQ match lasts for 15 mins while a RA match last only 1-3mins.

In JQ you have a team of 8 people and NPCs. There are often leechers and pve'ers with bad builds in JQ. So long as you move, people probably won't call you out on being a 'noob' (unless they're from the other team and laugh at your build or something). With the leechers in JQ, you can win even if there are 6 people on your team. So if there are no leechers and you are the only 'bad' player, losing is far from guaranteed. Also, you can be out of reach of teammates who don't notice your build or tactics.

RA is a whole different story.

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Originally Posted by Zerlina Ville

What do you mean by there goes their points? Can we loose points from RA matches? what kind of points? Like ranking or something?

People play Random Arena for the reward. Gladiator points are only awarded after consecutive wins (as can be read on the page I linked).

QueenofDeath · Mar 22, 2010, 02:01 AM // 02:01

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Originally Posted by Zerlina Ville

I bought the game yesterday (PvP Kit) looking for some nice PvP.
What I encountered was that in pretty much all my fights I entered there was some jackass calling me a noob, shouting out wtf?! idiot, retard etc...

Yes I am a noob, I bougth the freekin' game yesterday, what does he expect. Its not like he lost alot of his life to the fight which lasted for 1 min. Seriously, that kind of attitude is really putting me off from this game, its not nice playing a game trying to have a good time while half the people you meet call you a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing retard.

I have never in my whole life as a gamer met a more unfriendly and immature community, it shocks me. I guess its the fact that the game is free, so all the leet kids are playing it, I dont know, but I dont like it.

This is what you get when you have a no monthly fee game. Players (usually the 8 to 12 year olds) have no fear as getting banned for something takes an act of gods most of the time. As long as they don't use racial slurs like the n-word or religious remarks they can do and call you anything. I actually got an official letter that being called "retarded" or "retard" is not a violation as I can just turn on my ingame foul language filter....making it MY FAULT for the actions of others.

You are right though this kind of activity is what has and is contributing to the demise of GW1 and probably going to take a bite out of sales of GW2. I know I'm not buying into the same silly mess of a game this one has become.

Deviant Angel · Mar 22, 2010, 02:01 AM // 02:01

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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

stop sucking and people won't be mean to you

That's a lie. You will be verbally abused no matter what. You could say the same about pretty much any online game, but I've played several others and feel that GW is one of the worst when it comes to this.

Thick skin is pretty much a requirment when playing with other people. Unfortunately, it's not something you can get from the Priest of Balthazar.

As someone else already said, disable chats and whispers. Try to ignore the abuse and focus on learning how to play. You may even want to invest in the PvE part of the game. PvE and PvP are totally different, but at least you can get to know your character(s) without all the abuse.

Terrible Surgeon · Mar 22, 2010, 02:03 AM // 02:03

I feel terrible for you being limited to HA..where noobs are unwelcome[go international district btw] RA where cry babies LIVE and fort aspenwood/jade quarry. I wont include codex in the scenario because that arena was a flop..a BIG FAT FLOP! So just try to enjoy the game and ask people for input..most are actually helpful if you are not a jerk. pvxwiki will help some too.

*lemming* · Mar 22, 2010, 02:08 AM // 02:08

People are dipshits everywhere on the internet. Forums just happen to be more heavily moderated.

Still Number One · Mar 22, 2010, 02:10 AM // 02:10

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Originally Posted by Terrible Surgeon

I feel terrible for you being limited to HA..where noobs are unwelcome[go international district btw] RA where cry babies LIVE and fort aspenwood/jade quarry. I wont include codex in the scenario because that arena was a flop..a BIG FAT FLOP! So just try to enjoy the game and ask people for input..most are actually helpful if you are not a jerk. pvxwiki will help some too.

You left out GvG, which is the premier form of PvP in GW. Honestly if he can find a beginner GvG guild it will be the best, and quickest way to learn the ins and outs of Guild Wars PvP. But since the game has been dead since '08, his chances of finding a guild aren't very good.

QueenofDeath · Mar 22, 2010, 02:11 AM // 02:11

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go play any FPS, on a console or PC, and come back and tell me that it's any different.

I've been playing Left 4 Dead since Christmas and haven't had anybody act like a jerk or asswipe like in GW. Everybody plays pretty well and nobody calls anybody a jerk or retard or any of the other thousand things you read in GW pvp areas and places like Lions Arch, Kamadan and Kaniang every single day.

Still Number One · Mar 22, 2010, 02:17 AM // 02:17

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Originally Posted by QueenofDeath

I've been playing Left 4 Dead since Christmas and haven't had anybody act like a jerk or asswipe like in GW. Everybody plays pretty well and nobody calls anybody a jerk or retard or any of the other thousand things you read in GW pvp areas and places like Lions Arch, Kamadan and Kaniang every single day.

Not to justify the people making the bad comments but...the difference in the learning curve between any FPS and Guild Wars is huge. Anybody with eyes and hands can play an FPS at least decently. It is just point and press a button. The worst player in an FPS game does not hold a team back nearly as much as the worst player in Guild Wars does. It really isn't that good of a comparison.

mikejonesuk · Mar 22, 2010, 02:31 AM // 02:31

I'm a noob too and would like to get some PvP practice. I've found, it's impossible to get a match in Ascalon Arena for low-level characters 1-10 (or Shiverpeaks Arena 1-15) as not enough people are playing to get two teams together at the same time. I haven't found any other PvE arenas yet, and my experiences in the big PvP world have been embarrassing - I was reported for leeching before I even knew what leeching was !

I haven't settled on a Guild yet, but perhaps you can tell me whether it's possible to get some practice with people you know already (or can get to know) by Scrimmaging in a Guild Hall.

Is this correct?

I haven't done it yet, but can't some Guild Members just get together for a battle in the Guild Hall? So if a bunch of noobs want to play together and have a laugh and a chat about it afterwards, they can - without any random players getting upset at all the noobness.

If I'm right and any noobs want to meet up to Scrimmage, I'm happy to join in.

Is there a Guild that encourages noobness and scrimmages? There should be.

Get in touch if you'd like to noob-along-a-me.

The Template · Mar 22, 2010, 02:33 AM // 02:33

I suggest you play nintendo....

gremlin · Mar 22, 2010, 02:34 AM // 02:34

The problem with pvp is that everyone has to mix together regardless of experience and ability.

If the players could just agree to leaving part of the pvp environment to beginners only, or at least not get so impatient with newbies in certain areas then the problem would go away.

I don't blame anyone especially for the problem I am pretty sure if the top professional football teams had to play in a league which included junior teams comprising of 10 year olds they would get pretty irate too.

I can only hope that anet get there act in gear in time for gw2s release and provide training areas for pvp as they did for pve if they made the rewards for playing in such areas poor or none existent I am sure the experts wouldn't bother to play in them.

Silverhand · Mar 22, 2010, 02:49 AM // 02:49

honestly its like this in every game when you just begin to play
perhaps its more apparent in guild wars because pvp was originally designed to be what one did once they were done with pve, thus implying that the player had atleast some skill with the game

so honestly all that you can do is just ignore most of the people like others have said.
In addition read the wiki which has been linked already, go to http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page for build, and also try to find a guild

good lucky and welcome to guildwars

jonnieboi05 · Mar 22, 2010, 03:36 AM // 03:36

Hello, Zerlina Ville.

I would like to apologise for your recent experience with Guild Wars. Having said that, I would like to take this oppurtunity for you to supply us with some additional information as we are very interested in your feedback. Please fill out one of these forms and I will be sure to get back to you as soon as possible.

Thanks,
Lena

DigitalFear · Mar 22, 2010, 03:49 AM // 03:49

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Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05

roflol

Thread has been won.

Little more OT:People are assholes on teh intrawebz, especially in gw. You'll get used to it after a while and might even become such a big asshole as them.

Puddin Cheeks · Mar 22, 2010, 03:50 AM // 03:50

just copy paste a few builds that interest you from pvxwiki. yes most of those builds suck too, they are only popular against other pvxwiki builds. Once you get a feel for game mechanics and playstyle the game will work itself out for you. Yes you will be harassed constantly the whole time. I have played RA for almost 5 years for the casual roll the dice chance of getting a good team. It is quite enjoyable once you get past the fact you can't win them all and everyone will call you names regardless of how the matches turn out. Good luck, have fun and if you need someone to help you out in game with some build, play tips, msg me IGN Puddin Cheeks.

Chocobo1 · Mar 22, 2010, 04:56 AM // 04:56

Just be aware that this will never change. When you are new people will call you noob. When you get decent at it, people will say you have no life. When you rupt something people will always call it rupt spam, when you use a hex people will say it takes no skill, when you quarter knock someone, people will call you a botter.

It really never ends, you just have to think about it in terms of winning and losing and not get caught up in the whining and moaning.

II Lucky Charm II · Mar 22, 2010, 06:33 AM // 06:33

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Originally Posted by Zerlina Ville

I have never in my whole life as a gamer met a more unfriendly and immature community, it shocks me. I guess its the fact that the game is free, so all the leet kids are playing it, I dont know, but I dont like it.

Experience may change during online play. If you don't like it, I suggest you move on. There is nothing you can do that can change the way the community acts. However, you can adapt to the way they act and instead ignore the derogatory comments coming from this community.

Close this thread as it will not contribute anything positive to the community or the OP.

Mireles · Mar 22, 2010, 07:01 AM // 07:01

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Originally Posted by II Lucky Charm II

Experience may change during online play. If you don't like it, I suggest you move on. There is nothing you can do that can change the way the community acts. However, you can adapt to the way they act and instead ignore the derogatory comments coming from this community.

Close this thread as it will not contribute anything positive to the community or the OP.

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